Welcome to Wrong With Authority Footnote 3: Watching Frankenstein with James Murphy and Kit Power! James and Kit were lucky enough to find themselves in the same room at the same time recently, and decided to just do what came naturally - i.e. break out the recording equipment and record a podcast (mind out of the gutter, you). So we sat and watched 1931’s Frankenstein, and recorded the resulting conversation, which we present here, warts and all, for your listening enjoyment. It’s probably best to treat this as auxiliary material to accompany WWA3, where we discussed Gods And Monsters, though this should stand alone as a fun discussion of the movie.
Another WWA 'Footnote' episode, this time featuring Daniel and Kit talking about George Romero, acclaimed horror director.
Main Topic: George Romero, specifically The Crazies (1973) and Martin (1977). Imposter syndrome. Critical distance. Ground Zero artist. Chutzpah. Often great without being good. Actors. Casting. Race in Night of the Living Dead. The Shield. Changing dialogue. Moving on to The Crazies. First the 2010 version. Justified. Crazies as a thematic sequel. Gun control. Vietnam in Pennsylvania. Survivalist Armageddon. Representations of the military. Hero entrance. Spark of genius. Ableist title. Oversignification. Adaptation of an art film. Irrationalism as overarching theme. Immune survivor. The love triange. Father/daughter rape scene. Cozy horror iconography. Incestuous. Parallel narratives. Gas masks. Back to the Future. Trapped in a gym. Bleak George. Nuclear cynicism. Personal malice. The poison isn't the bacterium. Subversive art. Romero the hippie. Romero and the moneychangers. Moving on to Martin. One long rape scene. Censorship. Kit's history with Martin. Toxic masculinity. Sympathetic murderer/rapist. "Involuntary celibates." Amplas and vulnerability. Ducking syndrome. Romantic vampire myth. "The Moffat Effect." Unreliable. Are the murders real? Dreamlike. Fantasy seduction. Misogynist men. Dehumanization. Butchery. Adult material on developing brains. Porn and existentialism. "How bad can human nature get?" Intimate. Black and white sequences. Innocent versus good. Coming to adulthood. Understanding the ending. The one he didn't do. Sleeping teenagers. Virtuoso middle. Stumbling Daniel. Walkie-talkie. Guillotine. "Fuck the New Atheists." Ambiguity. The priest portrayed by George Romero. Impurity and the mark of the outsider. Reinforcing stereotypes and The Bad Seed. Monsters as postmodern construct. Wrapping Up.
Wrong With Authority, the podcast where four white guys talk about movies based on real historical events, returns... and this time we're talking about Mississippi Burning (1988), a travesty of the story of three civil rights workers - Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman - who were murdered in Mississippi in 1964 by the Klan/cops/state government (all essentially the same thing at that point).
Beware triggers. We're talking about vicious racism, hate-motivated violence and murder. At one point in the episode, one of us reads out part of a historical document which contains the n-word. We believe the context justifies its inclusion, but please be aware that it's there. Jack made the decision to not bleep it out, and takes responsibility. Also, we mention rape a couple of times - because it was an integral part of both Jim Crow and slavery.
The Shabcast comes to you from Chez WWA this time, because... well, because socialism can rationally allocate resources.
This month I'm joined by Kit and James, to talk about the election we had last week (surprise surprise) in which Jeremy Corbyn defied his critics to resurrect the fortunes of Labour and pummel the Tories into a very uncomfortable corner. We also talk about the horrific Grenfell Tower fire, just had just happened when we sat down to record.
Credit where its due: this episode very much came about because Kit and James organised it, and James both edited the main body of the episode and supplied the wonderful title. I'm not even in the episode for half an hour or so!
In the first of an irregular series of bonus 'mini' episodes which will henceforth be known as 'footnotes', Daniel and Jack discuss David Fincher's Zodiac, 2007.
Episode Notes: Main Topic: Zodiac (2007). But first, a thirteen minute riff on superhero movies. Token. Is Jack the Zodiac? Aren't we all the Zodiac? Unsolved mysteries. "Curtain rods everybody." Not to interrupt. Jack projects. General thoughts of the film. Fincher as director. Quality pastiche. Empty. JFK versus Zodiac. "The look." The radian theory. Pattern-seeking behavior. Marrying Chloe Sevigny. No social turmoil. Daniel pours a beer. Misogynist Zodiac Killer. Daniel projects. DNA. The guilt of Arthur Leigh Allen. Lingering fascination with history. Ferrin and the painting party. Two previous victims. Avery's discovery of a possible Zodiac victim. Missing evidence. Evidence presented by the film. 1978 letter not real. ALA lived near the IHOP? Ferrin trying to get weed. Ferrin's humanity. Inaccuracies in the opening sequence. Verisimilitude. Fake docudrama. "Graysmithed." A Current Affair. Toschi the camera hog. Searching the trailer. Not a good guy. The Dick Cheney joke doesn't land. Graysmith is always wrong. An aside about Steven Knight. Paranoid Graysmith. Fleischer as Vaughn. Papering over mistakes. Gay porn. Alt-right and the serial killer. The trailer search. Why the fascination? Displaced interest in history. Prickle and salaciousness. Puzzles and connections. Storytelling as justice. The ciphers. Serious droopy. Escalation. Earlier victims? Paul Avery. Handwriting. Ambidextrous. Seven versus Zodiac. Figures of intense anxiety. Looking for a black guy. Johnnie Cochran reference. Daniel pours another beer. In the past. Pitiful. Pepe the Zodiac. Infodump education. Murderous retail. Police files. Siding with Graysmith. Wallace Penny/Penny Wallace. Reading Graysmith? Faces in the dark. Gay Ellroy. The ending. Graysmith the hero. The poster. Wrapping Up.
In two parts. Because it's soooo long. You bastards had better download this and enjoy it because we sweated blood over this one.
Wrong With Authority is back from the dead, hosted by James this time, with an episode looking at two movies about the creators of classic horror cinema.
As ever, beware spoilers, and also one or two possible triggers.
This time, Wrong With Authority covers two movies about mathematicians! 'A Beautiful Mind' (Russell Crowe as John Nash) and 'The Imitation Game' (Benedict Cumberbatch as Alan Turing). High-octane excitement! Sex! War! Espionage! Madness! Equations! Inexplicable impromptu pen-giving ceremonies!
This being Daniel's episode, effort has been put in, which means there are show notes:
Main Topic: A Beautiful Mind and The Imitation Game. Mathematics, male homosexuality, and mental illness. Three. Four Oscars. A Woody Allen digression. Synopsis. Content Warning. Spy movie. Boringly. Serious Oscar Bait. Drained of challenge. Not about John Nash. The Sixth Sense Thing. Twenty. Positive. "Shit's about to get real." A Dick recommendation. Cure with love. Fucks it up both ways. Not about math. Willpower and medication. A personal failing. A proper ubermensch. Medication and mathematics. Unaging little girl. Amorous. Visceral. Bird in a cage. Low tactics. Nicer. Transformed details. Illegitimate. Studio interference? Sincerity. Exactly two black people. Crowe's performance. Trousers and briefcases. Crowe versus Bale. Save the cat. Lesser mortals and charm. Mainstream audiences. Hogwarts. Attempting to explain the Nash equilibrium. Adam Smith was wrong. "Well, actually..." Nash's reaction to the film. Alicia Larde. The Phantom. If John Nash were black.... Anti-semitic? Preordained. An extended riff about pens. A Philip Glass Interlude. Moving on to The Imitation Game. Alright. Biopics kinda suck. The "Fuck Your Machine" bullshit. Epic fail. Ideologically opposed to fun. Writing ourselves into history. Midwesteners feel icky. Progressive and tolerant. Tumblr fodder. The inverse Nash equilibrium. Cumberbatch skeptic. Sheldon. Moments. Not neurodivergent. Gas masks and tissues. Barely closeted. 20% effort. Factual errors. William Goldman. Sidetracking onto Boogie Nights. Foundational WWII. A Ghost in the Machine. Secrecy. Not a traditional marriage. Implication of treachery. William Tutte. Swords into plowshares. "The lovely girls." Glorification. Burning of books. Cryptonomicon. German infallibility. Believing the hype. Jack has no thoughts. Big picture Cold War. Reaganesque machismo. "Nothing to eat but guns." Keystone Kops and intelligence operations. "It is now." Mornington Crescent. Double consciousness. Autism as alibi. Different people. Non-dualist, non-vitalist. Christopher. Capturing human intelligence in a machine. Indictment. Next week on the Alan Turing show. Nice but then. Commodities. Clever. Fake tits. Different people. Joan Clarke, physicist. Always more interesting. Forever World War II. Platonic and nontraditional friendships. The Easy Rider ending. Suicide? A damp squib. Reaching for a reference. As crazy as Stone. Snowglobes and superbrains. Why sanitized? Keeping Calm and Carrying On. Finally, Trump. Also, the USSR doesn't exist anymore. Old intelligence. The cold shoulder. Manpain. Churchill and moral ambiguity. Because fuck Isaac Newton. Wrapping Up